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240 - Posted by: BRYAN PREADY ... 19 August 2010
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Sgt. Cyril SEDDON RAF VR
Cyril Seddon was a crew member of a Lancaster bomber who was killed when the plane was shot down in 1943. His remains are buried in Germany and his memorial says that he was aged 22 and the son of Lily Seddon, of Ormskirk.
A Dutch man who lives close to the site where the plane crashed is trying to find any living relatives of all the crew in order to invite them to a ceremony in Holland on 25 September. Some have already said they will be there but no relatives of Cyril Seddon have yet been traced.
If you are a relative of Cyril Seddon, or know someone who is, please contact Peter Heckmanns via email at projectjb607[at]gmail.com
More information about the last flight of the Lancaster bomber JB607 is on the web at http://www.ozatwar.com/460sqdn/jb607.htm
Thanks,
Bryan Pready
239 - Posted by: BILL HUYTON (H67) ... 18 August 2010
Message: ... response to message 236
I found Charlotte using the ODFHS 1851 index, in Maghull.
HO 107/2196.1, page 98b.
She is listed as 50, from Staffordshire.
I think that she had one of the (many) beer houses along the Leeds-Liverpool Canal, near the border with Lydiate.
Bill Huyton, Member H67. (bill.huyton[at]tesco.net)
238 - Posted by: KEITH JENKINS (J29) ... 18 August 2010
Message: ... see message 242 on page 25
James Carrington Mystery (see message No 237)
It is probable that the James Carrington in our Canal2 file - b abt 1846, partner of Rachel - is the same as the James Carrington in Canal1, b 1844, son of John Carrington and Ann Thompson. But we need some evidence to prove this - can anyone help? The key facts are:-
James, son of John and Ann, was baptised on 29.9.1844 in Lathom Chapel. They cannot be found in the 1851 census, but James appears, age given as 15, with his cousin Frederick on the canal at Scarisbrick in 1861.
Two marriages are listed at St Nicholas, Liverpool: on 9.5.1865, James, minor, boatman, son of John, boatman, to Alice Jackson; and on 3.6.1867, James, full, wid, boatman, son of John, boatman, to Mary Rimmer. An Alice Carrington d Hindley, 1867, age 22.
No death record has yet been found for a Mary Carrington, but the James in Canal2 appears in the 1871 census with "wife" Rachel, from Wigan, on the canal at Stockton Heath, Appleton, Cheshire. No marriage record can be found. James and Rachel appear in 1881 at Pennington with three young children and, surprisingly, a teenage daughter, Ann Carrington, born in Leigh, who was absent in 1871. Attempts to identify her birth record have failed. But the 1873 birth certificate for daughter Alice names her mother as Rachel Carrington, late Clegg, formerly Wood. (A Rachel Wood married James Clegg on 25.10.64 at Manchester Cathedral.) Later censuses offer no further clues. Without a marriage record for James and Rachel, the best hope is to find the birth of Ann Carrington, b Leigh c 1865, which should identify her parents.
Any suggestions to boatfamilies[at]odfhs.org please.
237 - Posted by: KEITH JENKINS (J29) ... 18 August 2010
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Another update of our Boat Families website - www.boatfamilies.org.uk - has brought the total number of people listed in the Canal1 file to 4,254. There are 50 more Hunters, who now join the Main Names list, as do the families Abram and Aspinall. A new name in the full index is Bamber, the family of boatman Thomas, b 1794, and Alice, whose children married into existing Robinson and Aspinall families.
There are 43 more Carringtons, 35 more Baldwins and the number of Culshaws, Muskers, Lambs and Martlands all increase by more than 20. Much information has come in through our special mailbox - boatfamilies@odfhs.org - and thanks go to Richard Pilkington, Paul Culshaw and Karen Bibby for their contributions.
One important correction is that James Carrington, b1845 Lathom, who married Margaret Taylor in 1866, is now known to be the son of Richard Carrington and Margaret nee Lyon, NOT John Carrington and Ann nee Thompson, as in previous versions. This amendment means that James Carrington, b abt 1846, his partner Rachel (formerly Clegg, nee Wood) and family have become detatched and now appear in our second file, Canal2.
Can anyone help identify this James? We would like to hear from you. (Details are in a separate messageboard item - 238, headed James Carrington Mystery.)
236 - Posted by: JAN HOWARD ... 15 August 2010
Message: ... see message 239 on page 24
Does anyone know of an Inn/Pub that existed in 1851 on Turnpike Road that had a Charlotte Williams as the Innkeeper. She was my great great grandmother and any information would be appreciated.
Jan Howard (janhoward18[at]hotmail.com)
235 - Posted by: SECRETARY ... 15 August 2010
Message: ... response to message 234
Hi Hermione,
The Convent which your grandfather spoke about was Redcliffe Convent which was in Prescott Road, Aughton, just on the border between Ormskirk & Aughton. Unfortunately it closed down a few years ago, but I think the Laundry may have remained. In later years the Convent was run by the Prince of Peace Community, and I did find a phone no for them 01695 581449, this was from a couple of years ago, but its worth a try. If your grandfather's brother died in this area, its worth having a look at Lancashirebmd website. All deaths registered in the area are on that site up to about 1950.
Pam Richardson, Secretary, ODFHS
234 - Posted by: HERMIONE STEWART ... 13 August 2010
Message: ... see message 235 on page 24
Hello,
I am trying to find out about my late grandfather, Ivan Martin, and would welcome some local knowledge! He talked very little about his early life but said that he and his two siblings were raised in a convent (? - it was run by nuns) in Ormskirk during the 1920s/1930s. I believe that his brother died during his time at there, whilst his sister stayed on for some years to work in the laundry. I would really like to find out the name of the institution and where any records might be held. There is a possiblity that the family were immigrants. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help!
Hermione Stewart (hermione.stewart[at]ntlworld.com)
233 - Posted by: JOAN BROOME ... 12 July 2010
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Could I post a message please on your board
Looking for info about the Masseys of Ormskirk. Joseph and Hilda Partington Married in 1916 in Ormskirk, had two daughters Alice and Mary Jane. I think they had six more children besides
thanks, Joan Broome (joanbroome[at]virginmedia.com)
232 - Posted by: KEITH JENKINS (J29) ... 8 June 2010
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The first major update has just been made to the Society's recently-launched canal families web site - www.boatfamilies.org.uk (nb: clicking this link will open a new window)
Thanks are due to Cath Gibbons, whose research has helped boost the number of individuals by 650 since March. Gibbons (including Gibbon, Gobin, Gobbin etc) is now the fourth most frequent surname in the list at 133, behind Forshaw (214), Carrington (155) and Lamb (140). Another new surname in the list of main families is Disley, and there are 58 additional Prescotts.
Many more marriages have linked these families together, and members are encouraged to check if their own ancestors are listed and to email additions or amendments to:-
boatfamilies[at]odfhs.org.uk
231 - Posted by: BILL JUNOR ... 31 May 2010
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Re: Banestre/Bannister
I attempted to send the following email to stanley[at]riley17.fsnet.co.uk,
but my email bounced. This member's interest was listed as
Banestre/Bannister 1590-1608 Ormskirk LAN. I would be grateful for any
information about my Bannister family or related Bannisters.
Greetings from Sydney, Australia,
I have just seen your interest in Banestre/Bannister on the Ormskirk and
District Family History site. My gggrandfather was Thomas Bannister who was
born at Ince Blundell c.1790. Thomas was a cordwainer/bootmaker in East
Street, Waterloo in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. He married Alice Ball, a
widow, in 1831 and they had at least one son James. James married Martha
Collier at St Patrick's Church, Liverpool in 1853 and with their daughter
Alice they emigrated to Australia in late 1854. James and Martha Banister
(that's the spelling they adopted here) were my maternal
great-grandparents. My Ban(n)isters were Catholics.
I know that your interests relate to 1590-1608, but hope that you may have
some knowledge of this branch of the Bannister family. I have not been able
to identify Thomas' parents, though Thomas may have had a brother Joseph. I
have also found a reference in the Free-masons Magazine of 1795 to a Thomas
Bannister, a tailor, of Ince Blundell, who was made bankrupt in 1794/95, but
do not know if this was my Thomas' father.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Best wishes,
Bill Junor (wjunor[at]gmail.com)
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